18. Living with Conviction

About the episode:

About today’s guest, Toby Dorr: Toby Dorr is a bestselling author and the founder of Unleashed where she inspires women to escape their emotional prisons and find purpose. She has been featured on Dateline, Inside Edition, Lifetime, Anderson Cooper, and The Atlantic magazine. Her writing has appeared in: Newsweek, Today, Authority Magazine, USA Wire, and Huffington Post. Her first book LIVING WITH CONVICTION was released in 2022.

To learn more about Toby Dorr and her memoir LIVING WITH CONVICTION, visit her website here: https://tobydorr.com

On today’s episode, my Toby and I discuss:

  • Toby’s friendships during her time in prison

  • Toby’s friend Lisa, who was executed by lethal injection in 2021

  • How prison strips you bare to who you really are

  • Toby’s memoir LIVING WITH CONVICTION, which is all about the unexpected sisterhood she discovered while in prison

  • Finding personal freedom behind bars

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Quotes:

"You know, those friendships that you make in prison is so odd because, I mean, you live together, you sleep together, you shower together, you eat together, you cry together, you're together, together, together together. It's almost like you're married."

"When you go have coffee with your friends, you don't nearly get into the depth of where you are in that moment because there isn't time... in prison that's all there was to talk about was how we really felt."

"Prison just strips you bare to just the inner part of who you really are. That's all you have left when you're in prison."

"So I always recommend to women, if you're struggling with something, pick up a pen and a piece of paper and just write... when you're writing it comes from your hand. And you can write some of the most healing things without even realizing that they're inside of you."

"You know, when you go have coffee with your friends, you don't nearly get into the depth of where you are in that moment because there isn't time... you don't really get into the meat of how people really feel."

"If you're lucky enough, you can focus on that and find ways that you think you can bring that forth when you get out of prison because going back to superficial relationships and casual relationships just never did work for me after prison."

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