40 & 41: Flipping the Script: Jaymie Interview me!

About the episode:

Today I thought it’d be fun to flip the script and have my good friend Jaymie (from episode 15 and 16) interview me!

Jaymie and I discuss:

  • Why I created the podcast

  • My grief journey (including how I’ve invalidated and gaslit my own grief!)

  • The complexities of friend-grief and what I’ve learned

  • What to say (and not to say) to people who are grieving

  • The MYTH of the 5 stages of grief

  • What I would say to my 23-year-old freshly grieving self

  • Identifying what we need and asking for help (which can be so hard!)

  • Being in that dark dark place, when it doesn't feel like it'll ever get better

(Part 1: Episode 40) Listen on Apple Podcasts | Listen on Spotify

(Part 2: Episode 41) Listen on Apple Podcasts | Listen on Spotify

Access the Transcript

Quotes:

"My whole goal was to create a community of people who are grieving and missing friends, which is why it's called Friends Missing Friends, because I want to be friends with all of you."

"That was one of my biggest struggles in my grief was I was invalidating my own grief without even realizing it, subconsciously."

"I think a lot of it was because of subliminal messages that the world was sending me, which was that friends are not as important as family and romantic partners."

"I've come to believe if [the 5 stages of Grief] works for someone and it comforts them and helps them like use it, you know? But if it makes you feel like you're doing it wrong, throw it out the window, forget it."

"I am so sorry. I'm so sorry this happened. That's all I wanted to hear. And the majority of people did not say that."

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